4:05 "we never come in contact with purely quantitative matter" Stand in front of a moving train and then come back to tell me about your qualitative experience of it
I will begin my critique by stating that I am not a materialist, I am a Christian platonist. With that being said, I feel like your opening statements had several issues but I will reserve my opinions until I finish.
Issue 1: I think this is going to harm your video, I think you incorrectly define materialism. Materialism is far better defined as the idea that all things can be reduced to infinitely simple (fundemental) components. This is false, but because you have incorrectly defined materialism, you have given the materialists a way out of your logical trappings.
Issue 2: "Materialism replaces the territory with the map." You begin this point by declaring that quantitative values are to be understood as descriptions of a qualitative world. This comparison assumes that qualitative values are somehow "more real" than quantitative values. This cannot be assumed to be true. Obviously if the world around us is fundementally qualitative, and quantities are mere tools for comprehending it, then materialism is false. However, there is very little evidence to suggest this. The universe doesn't obey "qualitative laws." It obeys laws of quantity. Once again, this doesn't mean the world is materialistic, but it means that you are making a bad argument. We live in a quantitative world which we commonly understand as being qualitative. This quantities, however, are not material. They are abstractions, which are perfectly real. Therefore materialism is false.
Issue 3: The problem of conciousness is a good argument. No complaints. Conciousness is not infinitely reducible to fundemental components.
Issue 4: "Particles don't exist without measurement." This is demonstrably false and results as a misunderstanding of quantum mechanics. Particles don't have definable properties without measurement, they exist as a probabalistic wave function, a set of possible states. While unobserved, it is not the case that they do not exist at all, but rather that they exist in all of these states.
In any case, I agree with your ultimate conclusion. Materialism is false. But these reasons are not sound.
What you are describing is the very essence of modern commerce. One based almost entirely around quantity and not quality. The more rare something is (quantity), the more of the units of exchange are needed to buy it (quantity). The value is almost entirely quantity based. Everyone knows the quantity but not the quality. This scarcity thinking leads to the dehumanization of life by reducing everything to the monetization process.
Great video. Just want to clarify for myself. You mentioned brain activity while on psychodelics and while sleeping. You said that it is lower than in regular situations. But according to what i read online it's higher. (for sleep, it also depends on a phase) Can provide links, if necessary. Thanks.
The affinity of neurotransmitters affects how effectively they can modulate specific neuronal pathways, but whether this leads to an overall increase or decrease in brain activity depends on the broader context of neural interactions and the functional roles of the specific neurotransmitters and receptors involved.
Can anyone site the Johns Hopkins papers Bernardo is referring to that psychedelics reduce activity in the brain? All the papers I have found suggest that brain activity is reduced in certain areas of the brain like the DMN but increase activity in others.
Having watched many "The One is World Consciousness" by Frederico Faggin, Benardo Kastrup, and Donald Hofman, none have tackled the principle of Justice. So is Mother Teresa and Hitler's Consciousness "partwhole of the One", start off on an even platform in the new conscious? No, I like to think Mother Teresa communicates and finds love from the people she helped. Whereas Hitler will experience the conscious pain and suffering he caused to millions and this won't go away until he begs forgiveness. This is what Hell can be. Following from the Principe of Justice what is a sin? Coveting your neighbours' goods happens all the time, but most people get over it. The most serious would be be.killing and stealing and bearing false witness against thy neighbour. Is there a hierarchy of sin seriousness in "The One"Whole World" Consciousness?"
The problem of materialism is the problem of 'representationalism': materialists can't prove that the internal representations of our brain correspond to an extra-mental world.
Much less can they prove that said world is composed of 'matter'. It's not a scientific problem, it's a conceptual/ philosophical one.
Kastrup explains it in his book 'Why Materialism is Baloney': according to materialism, we 'hallucinate' reality with our brains, but we never have direct contact with reality.
We can't prove that the 'hallucination' corresponds to anything external.
The problem is so severe that materialism can't solve it. And materialism won't solve it. Because materialist premises are faulty.
Either way, I believe that hylemorphism (Ed Feser) is superior to idealism.
I can't thank you enough Bernado. After watching them all and especially the German woman's blind alters analogy, you have given us all a LOT more to consider. This broader perspective can help us prepare to understand many unexplained hidden variables. Thanks immensely.
Now to catch my preconconcieved blindnesses as I watch them all over again 🖖
I've been diving into this topic and feel if we can get past this religious zeal for materialism / scientism we will have the possibility to solve many pathologies in the world such as nihilism. There has been a sort of schizophrenic split since modernity and this atomizing view of the world is a problem. Unfortunately we take materialism for granted which makes it challenging to even look at.
Materialismo: o mundo lá fora, para além de nossas mentes, não é de natureza mental, mas de total redutibilidade matemática, um mundo de quantidades sem qualidades intrínsecas. Estas seriam criadas pelo nosso cérebro. Por que o materialismo é errado? Há uma contradição interna essencial: ele define matéria de um modo incomensurável com relação à mente e, depois, tenta explicar a mente nos termos da matéria. Busca, assim, explicar as qualidades em termos de quantidades.
very interesting video but i wonder if perception of mind is an individual experience, then why do we all observe the same material world eg an animal, a landscape, or an inanimate object such as a table and chair .does that mean our conscious is a shared collective experience
Why is the baloney of the material world not like the instinct of a flock of geese, ie natural baloney? An illusion but a real illusion? How will the taking of the illusion less seriously, as a dashboard, help us? Why are our measurements, our thoughts, no matter how inaccurate, not part of nature?
I think you misrepresent materialism's view of Material as abstract – "in the mind of the materialists". Materialists assert that Material is primary, fundamentally not abstract. I think what you are describing is Dualism.
@Kaliscetera
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I've only read the title and I'm on-board already.
@cameronmclennan942
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
4:05 "we never come in contact with purely quantitative matter"
Stand in front of a moving train and then come back to tell me about your qualitative experience of it
@TommyEfreeti
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Quantity describes quality numerically; it can therefore never precede it. For language to exist, it MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DESCRIBE.
Rational materialists mistake the measurement for reality….and will always remain bound by subject-object paradigms.
@dokidelta1175
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I will begin my critique by stating that I am not a materialist, I am a Christian platonist. With that being said, I feel like your opening statements had several issues but I will reserve my opinions until I finish.
Issue 1: I think this is going to harm your video, I think you incorrectly define materialism. Materialism is far better defined as the idea that all things can be reduced to infinitely simple (fundemental) components. This is false, but because you have incorrectly defined materialism, you have given the materialists a way out of your logical trappings.
Issue 2: "Materialism replaces the territory with the map." You begin this point by declaring that quantitative values are to be understood as descriptions of a qualitative world. This comparison assumes that qualitative values are somehow "more real" than quantitative values. This cannot be assumed to be true. Obviously if the world around us is fundementally qualitative, and quantities are mere tools for comprehending it, then materialism is false. However, there is very little evidence to suggest this. The universe doesn't obey "qualitative laws." It obeys laws of quantity. Once again, this doesn't mean the world is materialistic, but it means that you are making a bad argument. We live in a quantitative world which we commonly understand as being qualitative. This quantities, however, are not material. They are abstractions, which are perfectly real. Therefore materialism is false.
Issue 3: The problem of conciousness is a good argument. No complaints. Conciousness is not infinitely reducible to fundemental components.
Issue 4: "Particles don't exist without measurement." This is demonstrably false and results as a misunderstanding of quantum mechanics. Particles don't have definable properties without measurement, they exist as a probabalistic wave function, a set of possible states. While unobserved, it is not the case that they do not exist at all, but rather that they exist in all of these states.
In any case, I agree with your ultimate conclusion. Materialism is false. But these reasons are not sound.
@alexanderbodman6470
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
“I Am”
@Yyamma123
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I see like Alex OConnor he has removed the bookshelves from background. Good idea i think anyway for same reason as Alex
@johnhausmann2391
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
That is a ridiculous definition of materialism. He's created a straw man that can barely stand up.
@johndough23
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
What you are describing is the very essence of modern commerce. One based almost entirely around quantity and not quality. The more rare something is (quantity), the more of the units of exchange are needed to buy it (quantity). The value is almost entirely quantity based. Everyone knows the quantity but not the quality. This scarcity thinking leads to the dehumanization of life by reducing everything to the monetization process.
@NikoAmeristar
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Love & Beauty are qualities. Money and the other stuff that comes with money is quantity.
@Alex-zl3ke
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Great video. Just want to clarify for myself. You mentioned brain activity while on psychodelics and while sleeping. You said that it is lower than in regular situations. But according to what i read online it's higher. (for sleep, it also depends on a phase) Can provide links, if necessary. Thanks.
@Aquamayne100
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
so then cypher was right
@marcuswaterloo
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
The affinity of neurotransmitters affects how effectively they can modulate specific neuronal pathways, but whether this leads to an overall increase or decrease in brain activity depends on the broader context of neural interactions and the functional roles of the specific neurotransmitters and receptors involved.
@dmitrysamoilov5989
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
The mind is a computer program.
@thethikboy
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Materialism is an idea or a system of ideas, a metaphysics, which can't even demonstrate or define what matter is.
@ParallelNewsNetwork
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Can anyone site the Johns Hopkins papers Bernardo is referring to that psychedelics reduce activity in the brain? All the papers I have found suggest that brain activity is reduced in certain areas of the brain like the DMN but increase activity in others.
@boolioski
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
So adrift in a sea of shared insignificance with zero free will then. Great!
@chrisallard1819
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Fantastic -many thanks
@waynzwhirled6181
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I'm only eight minutes into this and it is so excellent.
@studiodingli4875
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Having watched many "The One is World Consciousness" by Frederico Faggin, Benardo Kastrup, and Donald Hofman, none have tackled the principle of Justice. So is Mother Teresa and Hitler's Consciousness "partwhole of the One", start off on an even platform in the new conscious? No, I like to think Mother Teresa communicates and finds love from the people she helped. Whereas Hitler will experience the conscious pain and suffering he caused to millions and this won't go away until he begs forgiveness. This is what Hell can be.
Following from the Principe of Justice what is a sin? Coveting your neighbours' goods happens all the time, but most people get over it. The most serious would be be.killing and stealing and bearing false witness against thy neighbour. Is there a hierarchy of sin seriousness in "The One"Whole World" Consciousness?"
@user-ui2mk2no1f
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Bernardo I wish you would debate that Dave Farina, a staunch materialist. I am sure he would leave in a wheel chair.
@nyc-exile
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Materialists are the saddest people in the world. They are even denying their importance in the equation.
@nyc-exile
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
A Universe without consciousness (before or after) is the dumbness thing ever., hahaha.
@martam4142
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
The problem of materialism is the problem of 'representationalism': materialists can't prove that the internal representations of our brain correspond to an extra-mental world.
Much less can they prove that said world is composed of 'matter'. It's not a scientific problem, it's a conceptual/ philosophical one.
Kastrup explains it in his book 'Why Materialism is Baloney': according to materialism, we 'hallucinate' reality with our brains, but we never have direct contact with reality.
We can't prove that the 'hallucination' corresponds to anything external.
The problem is so severe that materialism can't solve it. And materialism won't solve it. Because materialist premises are faulty.
Either way, I believe that hylemorphism (Ed Feser) is superior to idealism.
But Kastrup is very good!
@skybellau
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I can't thank you enough Bernado. After watching them all and especially the German woman's blind alters analogy, you have given us all a LOT more to consider. This broader perspective can help us prepare to understand many unexplained hidden variables. Thanks immensely.
Now to catch my preconconcieved blindnesses as I watch them all over again 🖖
@taonow369
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
No measuring = meditation
@stressaccount7664
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I've been diving into this topic and feel if we can get past this religious zeal for materialism / scientism we will have the possibility to solve many pathologies in the world such as nihilism. There has been a sort of schizophrenic split since modernity and this atomizing view of the world is a problem. Unfortunately we take materialism for granted which makes it challenging to even look at.
@ashwadhwani
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Mothers matter ;))
@Ivuspp
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Matéria, para o materialismo, é uma abstração teórica, não um dado de nossa experiência empírica.
@Ivuspp
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Materialismo: o mundo lá fora, para além de nossas mentes, não é de natureza mental, mas de total redutibilidade matemática, um mundo de quantidades sem qualidades intrínsecas. Estas seriam criadas pelo nosso cérebro. Por que o materialismo é errado? Há uma contradição interna essencial: ele define matéria de um modo incomensurável com relação à mente e, depois, tenta explicar a mente nos termos da matéria. Busca, assim, explicar as qualidades em termos de quantidades.
@scorpiorob7986
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Atheists ARE Materialists Rationalists Reductionists = FACT!
NO, I am NOT a Christian.
I might be a (Dark and eclectic), Pagan, however.
I guess I could be a Hindu.
I guess I could even be a Buddhist.
NO, I am NOT any shade of anything Abrahamic.
NO, I am NOT a (Hippy Dippy), New Age Lightworker.
Which one, am I, lol?
@JohnAnderson-ss9vn
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
very interesting video but i wonder if perception of mind is an individual experience, then why do we all observe the same material world eg an animal, a landscape, or an inanimate object such as a table and chair .does that mean our conscious is a shared collective experience
@LJG29
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Why is the baloney of the material world not like the instinct of a flock of geese, ie natural baloney? An illusion but a real illusion? How will the taking of the illusion less seriously, as a dashboard, help us? Why are our measurements, our thoughts, no matter how inaccurate, not part of nature?
@janklaas6885
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
📍11:51
@wenasholeranch
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
If the biblical narrative were true, the fall of man was the naming of the places and animal where we slipped into a fixed and measured reality.
@IdeaRefinery
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I think you misrepresent materialism's view of Material as abstract – "in the mind of the materialists". Materialists assert that Material is primary, fundamentally not abstract. I think what you are describing is Dualism.
@pepedestroyer5974
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
9:15 how do we know this?
@josephturner7569
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
I know what materialism is. What is baloney?
@canjian1783
April 19, 2024 at 9:44 am
Ceci n'est pas une pipe